even saying he used hacksaws. even if you look at the hole behind the bed, there's a cut that does not appear to have been made by a hacksaw it appears to have been made by a power tool so they'll have to corroborate every single thing he's saying. especially also you pop up -- you shimmy down six floors, you pop up a manhole you seem not to like and then you have to go back up those six floors. officials you speak will-to-will say that. there will be two holes made for him to climb out the manholes. what we know is during his time on the run he was able to elude authorities, there was an incident where it's reported that, in fact, they were very close to certain somebody searching a house that they could hear a conversation being had. there's additional information being reported that david sweat may have hidden on one of those