what was he going to -- what were you going to be able to extract from him in order to win the vote? were you willing to think about voting for him if he made some concessions to you? >> there were a lot of discussions. what we didn't hear from kevin is what would he do differently. >> reporter: what did you want him to do differently? >> we wanted to include more people in the process, more members across this country, take advantage of their constituents and their expertise and those kinds of things. what we've seen in washington, particularly in the last three to four years is a consolidation in the office of speaker. it hasn't work. that's why the vast, overwhelming majority don't like republican leadership up here. we lost two speakers in about two weeks up here essentially. i think the establishment is in disarr disarray. whether it's daniel webster or jason chaffetz, a more inclusive