that time. there is value in grandstanding. if that means you're holding a mega phone up to expose something to the public. i'm not suggesting yesterday was a successful example of that. >> i was going to say. >> grandstanding isn't a worthless exercise. it can serve a purpose. >> you use the phrase push the conversation forward. >> right. >> you're representing your teams. i don't feel like you did it yesterday. and it worried me about what's to come if this is the best you two can do in terms of coming together. >> this is why i separate the concept of grandstanding from what happened yesterday. i do not think republicans need to be in charge of the microphone of the megaphone on obama care. it is becoming self-evident. the problems the american people are experiencing, it's not just the website, the functional and more importantly, the security, it's people getting kicked off their insurance. >> i think you're overstating