away and then started blackmailing the company, the u.s. would be all over it. you'd have the fbi, all of these guys in colored parkas running around. we're not seeing any of that. why not? >> it's because one, it's scalability, this is a very large, this is a very unique situation here. this goes on every day and there's only a limited amount of resources, both in the federal government and state and local law enforcement. we don't have any good agreements for norms in cyberspace between nations and nations. we have companies that are struggling to figure out how do we do this right? we created a society from the internet where we built a system to be open and accessible. then all of a sudden we find out there's bad guys out there. now we're trying to close that, while still running the business. at the same time, when you look at the government's role, if there was intelligence out there that they should have been collecting on particularly that regime, if indeed they're involved, why weren't they able to go to the company and say listen, we see them creating