trying to injure himself. let's test it. cnn reporter evan testing the developments. how strong or how big or how important is a piece of the puzzle of this? >> well this adds to the doubt that some people already have as to whether or not these officers were at fault. so this is part of the big question that police investigators are going to be facing. prosecutors in the state attorney's office are going to be facing. we're talking about a six-block ride. that's the time between the second prisoner's put in the van and the time he arrives at the police station. this all begins at 8:42. the wagon is requested. at 8:46 the van driver says that gray is being combative, he's being irate. they put him in leg irons. and then shortly thereafter the second prisoner gets in here. >> all right. if any of it is true the biggest question it raises is how hurt could freddie gray have been when he was put in the van if he was able to move so much and be so violent with himself in the van? >> right. and the question is you know