>> you heard that woman from the woman. did you hear any gunshots? >> no i did not not. >> you didn't hear gunshots throughout this entire all while you were sheltering in place for 30 minutes either? >> no no. we didn't hear any gunshots. >> you said unfortunately you've lived through this before and you mean what happened in 2013. what was the situation that day? >> the situation that day was pretty similar to today and how everybody reacted. you know unfortunately, i was on the third floor pretty near where a lot of the action went down. i spent a couple more hours in the office with my coworkers once again locked in a room. the evacuation was the same. it just took a while longer. i think the training obviously shows that everyone's been going through since then. didn't take us that long to get