doctor in the world and sometimes the patient isn't going to make it. >> do you think this is terminal? >> absolutely. >> whoopi doesn't think so. >> we have known her a long time. i think she is probably heart broken inside about this. she's known him a long time. listen -- >> no one to suffer fools or people she believes does the wrong thing to women, either. how do you reconcile the two? >> i haven't had that specific discussion with her. i just know that at least initially, i was willing to give mr. cosby the benefit of the doubt. when somewhere between three dozen plus women come forward by his own admission that he's bought these drugs so that he can use them to assault women. it's just reached the tipping point. this is only the explanation point. >> does he come out? does he come out? does he deal with it finally? >> does he ever speak?