under his skin. >> how does he do that? >> we'll find out. >> not our problem. let's look at senator marco rubio. he must remind voters of his policy credentials. he has to avoid blending into the crowd. that can tough in a field of ten. >> the real challenge is, this is somebody running in a way like obama did in 2008. they have often been compared. he has an interesting personal story and engaging style. but you can't do that in 30 seconds. it takes time to develop it and talk about your biography and who you are and the values you want to bring to the race and to the white house. for him to try and like sort of get that all done while he's competing with nine other people, very, very tough. >> maggie, we'll talk about john kasich on home turf. we'll talk at what he needs to do. emphasize his time as governor and avoid prickliness. >> he needs to introduce himself. he was an unknown and second to last entrance to this race. so he needs to tell people who he is with a positive case. he has a lot of terms to do that. but in terms of prickliness, he