defining. >> yeah, you had them in $12 a barrel and that crisis, and you got so much oil. i think that we're pumping 2 million more barrels a day than we're using. >> yeah, the saudi's usually stop when it's pumping. there's too much oil in the world right now. >> yeah. >> see what happens when you push and pass the 6,000 points? all of this stuff starts to come. >> everything is moving. that's not why it's just -- there are a lot of things concerning. >> isn't that a thing for traders are very confused because there's so much uncertainty out there, and it's not just china. it's all over. you pick a spot in the world, and it's total confusion out there. >> al, you were on the floor yesterday when all he can was breaking less.