safety, if you're sitting there in the cabin some place and somebody walks in with a gun, i tell you what, i would rather be in the place with the gun and not the gun, i can tell you that. i'm a strong second amendment person. >> i guess what we're struggling with is what that means, you're a second amendment man and strong on that, should it be easier for people to get guns? it sounds counter intuitive to so many people, but is that what you're suggesting? >> i think right now in theory if you go right now it is not that easy for a lot of people. a lot of people have to go through the process. we'll look at chicago with the tremendous gun problems with gangs, many are illegal immigrants to get onto another subject. but in chicago you have a tremendous amount of shootings.