you must comply. marc's giving people the impression you don't have to comply to police officers. that's why we're having a lot of incidents. you're giving that impression, every time i speak to you. you always have a problem, you know, talking about an officer's use of force. i'm telling the you, it's a result of a failure to comply. if she got out of the seat when she was told, there wouldn't be a problem. but apparently she had no respect for the school, probably has no respect for her teacher, probably has no respect at home or on the street, and that's why she acted the way she did. >> let's take this to the most extreme example. what if he had shot and killed her -- >> he didn't shoot and kill her. >> that's why it's an example. just listen for ten seconds. >> it's a lousy example. >> all right, all right. he's taking to it the extreme to see if it makes more sense that way. >> so if you were to shoot and kill her, we would, of course, say, that's too much. you couldn't just say, well, she didn't comply, so whatever