frankly start with a disadvantage on strength and most democrats do. she doesn't have either of those problems. she upholds everybody on that stage. that's an advantage for her and they'll have to answer to her tonight. >> let's take the other side on that. you guys are in a hole when it come to this issue. the big buzz words, weak versus strong. that's what's working for trump. the current administration, secretary included as part of it, weak, they don't understand the fear that you're being too nice about people who want to kill us. these are narratives that are hurting you. you'll hear about them tonight. what is the counter? >> the challenge for all these candidates up there tonight is going to be to lay out specifically what they would do differently. it's not enough to say i will destroy isis more. >> why isn't it? >> destroying isis, you say you will but you don't do it. >> that's not a real position. that's rhetoric. that may be enough to get applause lines in the earliest