need to have a hopeful optimistic message, believing in the strength of our country and how we keep ourselves safe by projecting american leadership in the world. and the debate last night, i think brought some clarity to that. >> let's take a look at the moment that you and donald trump butted heads. you might not have seen this recently. >> in case you forgot? >> let's see. >> he's a very nice person but we need tough people. toughness, intelligence and we need tough. jeb said when they come across the southern border they come as an act of love. >> you said in september 30th that isis was not a factor. >> am i talking or are you talking, jeb? >> i'm talking right now. >> you interrupted. are you going to apologize, jeb? no. >> am i allowed to finish. >> one at a time. >> excuse me, am i allowed to finish? go ahead, mr. trump. >> a little bit of your own medicine. >> please, one at a time. >> right. that was different than what you've done in the past. when he said don't interrupt me and are you talking, or i'm