rubio, new. talks like an outsider. carson, trump, they dominate everything. >> you keep wondering when pragmatism will kick in. yesterday in the "journajourna journal, there was a tremendous piece under the headline let's elect hillary right now. he's a conservative and ocean he's saying we are driving ourselves in to a ditch. wouldn't we rather have someone in the white house with whom we can often fre nfrd of someone that we can revile. and yet there is a sentiment out there that says -- and i think it gets stirred by individuals who are on a.m. talk radio and have cable programs not on cnn, but they make their living by fomenting discontent, by attracting web clicks, by getting people to tune in and watch and listen. and they laugh all the way to the bank. they now control a large part of the nomination process and the party can be damned.