comparison to other age groups and in southern states like yours, those numbers get worse. in your mind, what needs to be done to perhaps change some of those attitudes, specifically in southern states? >> we need to keep having conversations like this. we need to keep having information put out -- correct information, appropriate information for families to be receiving and to be analyzing, thinking about utilizing as they make decisions for their teenagers in the case of 12 through 17-year-olds. i was on service in the middle part of september here at our large children's hospital and we mostly had adolescents being admitted to the intense ir care unit to to be on ventilators, ecmo, and to a person they were unvaccinated. that just does not have to be. and, of course, the guilt that parents carry with that as they sit by their child's bedside as they struggle to breathe from covid or are on a breathing machine because of covid and yet