appear before the three committees. john eisenberg, michael ellis, both lawyers with the national security council and mick mulvaney says he will not show. one from the energy depth. eisenberg told him not to discuss the call between presidents trump and zielinski and then he, then moved the record to a higher security server, he is probably the headliner of the day. do you expect they will show? >> it's an interesting kind of question. some of these have lawyered because they don't want to get caught between what their employer is telling them and a subpoena tells them to do. i think the white house will sooner or later realize the strategy of keeping their people from testifying means that folks they would rather not hear from are building the record, you know? they have to figure out what their strategy is really going to be. if they have got insiders who could possible put forward an