he's got some exposure. i think from the trial strategy of the impeachment, this is a huge gift for democrats. maybe they can't call nunes himself, because he is one of the questioners, but if they put on direct testimony, for example, from parnas, about his involvement that will be a devastating blow to the entire republican strategy with him leading it. >> so i want to move on to a newly released state department document that says the white house arranged this meeting between rudy giuliani and secretary of state pompeo. we heard pompeo's reaction he said he hadn't seen when asked about it. what is the significance of that reporting? >> well, my sense is that what we're going to see the white house have to do or try to do is assert some kind of executive privilege and try to make it all go way. the reality is, though, if you track statement by statement, what the president has said, what rudy giuliani has sandy what the secretary of state has