john notes his importance of where it is up front in the calendar. i don't sense any sort of panic. this is a return where we were before that first debate. i think more than anything else. and i will also just note, as we're talking about -- kiersten was talking about the liberals, splitting between sanders and warren. it is clear in the poll that various coalitions of the candidates and therefore what turn out looks like, cliche that it is, is going to determine so much. if reliable democratic voters, older voters, ones that identify that more moderate and conservative, they are identifying as a democrat than an independent. if those are the folks that show up in large numbers, that is joe biden territory. you can see where the nonjoe biden -- non-joe biden vote. among liberals, independent