he only carried that group by 4 points. 4 points with biden, 27 against clinton. you know, if those numbers hold up, he has deep, deep problem. and i think the more erratically he behaves the more he's driving those voters and other voters away. >> that's a really interesting analysis, david, because we talk a lot about suburban women and how concerned and scared and freaked out they are as they send their kids back to school next week with this spate of gun violence and mass shootings and thwarted mass shootings. every single day we are reporting on some sort of new cashe of weapons that thank god at the 11th hour the police have found. but the non-college educated white women, it's hard to know what they're souring on with the president. >> yeah, i don't think it's any particular issue. i think it's his style, the tweets and the tantrums and the