would get applause from certain supporters among his base. but it was going to open him up to enormous criticism from the left and the right. and i think we sort of just see some of that now. again, i think he's discovering these things are more complicated than how he campaigned on them. and i do think he is sincere in his desire to end the war, but i think a lot of his own supporters are left questioning why go about it in this way. >> plenty of democrats including those running for president right now would like to see a full withdrawal of u.s. troops in afghanistan. it doesn't fall strictly on party lines. maggie, one other point here. u.s. troops in afghanistan, is it still possible that the president withdraws the number or draws down u.s. troops the same way he was considering with nothing in return from the taliban? >> i don't think so based on every conversation i've had over the last couple of days. obviously don't rule out anything with how the president approaches things, but i don't think so. i think this is a hot stove