really try to make sure you're appealing to white, noncollege educated working class voters, trump democrats. some see that's the model of a democrat we need as the nominee in order to compete with trump. listen. a year from now, i don't think any of us think that the election is going to be a 15-point spread. our modern day presidential elections are not that big. but this goes directly to what joe biden is selling. that he is the best equipped, the safest choice to beat donald trump. you hear some of his competitors, bltelizabeth warre cory booker saying we can't go with a safe choice. that's not the way you'll turn out and turbo charge that democratic turnout in the urban and suburban areas. >> president trump's approval rating is down. a new cnn poll. it shows where it's been over the past many months. it's at its lowest level at the moment. 39% approval. 55% disapprove. but it fluctuates, obviously. so the highest has been 43. >> this is the lowest point