across. >> listen. i'm far from a john bolton fan, that being said this guy is a true conservative when it comes to foreign policy. he is an ideologue. we've got a purported republican president in the white house who coddles putin. who coddles kim in north korea. who coddles erdogan. and if you are a real conservative as john bolton is, this has got to really bother you on a conviction and principle and ideology front. >> another point why bolton is so important is he had daily regular contact with president trump. if you look at morrison and even taylor, their knowledge of the president is hearsay. they did not deal at least based on what we know so far, he doesn't talk about conversations with the president. he talks about people who talked to people who talked to the president and his testimony has been and presumably will still