substantially from his and that he wants to make sure that his perspective gets represented. you know, this is a democracy. you can't fault someone for putting their hat in the ring. and i believe that mike has a lot to add. he's done a lot for the country over the last number of years. >> do you think that he's right that perhaps elizabeth warren and bernie sanders, some of their economic models, are too far from the mainstream? in your opinion, where does andrew yang sit in comparison to those? >> well, i think that we need to have 21st century solutions for 21st century problems, not solutions that have not worked in the past. unfortunately, some of the candidates in the field seem like they're reaching backwards for solutions to today's problems and they don't seem to have a sharp understanding of how technology is transforming our way of life and particularly the decimation of millions of manufacturing jobs in the midwest that led to donald trump's victory in 2016.