the way that those who are watching it really closely are thinking about it. sure was a topic around thanksgiving dinner tables. but did people have the same command of the facts and the import of it that those who are watching closely did. they don't want to lose too much more time. once you get into january, then that republican argument which is process arguments, not engaging with the facts but saying why are they doing this in an election year when voters will have a say, let's have the vote versers have a say. >> defending the president is now defending the president propagating a conspiracy theory about this. retroactively justifying the president on ukraine here. and john kennedy has been at the forefront of this. he's been back and forth so many times, it's hard to keep track. on this network he came back and apologized for this.