i think joe makes a point this can work out for him. but the voter is the victim of trump's lies. he's not the villain who you say, jack, you're a damn liar. >> i like hearing from political activists and strategists because yelling at a voter is something you never want to do in theory and that's clearly your first reaction. anger, though, seems to be a thing right now. right? nancy pelosi the house speaker yesterday had a moment with jamie rosen when he asked her if she hated donald trump. watch this. >> as a catholic, i resent your using the word hate in the sentence that addresses me. i don't hate anyone. i was raised in a way that is a heart full of love and always prayed for the president. and i still pray for the president. i pray for the president all the time. so don't mess with me when it comes to words like that. >> don't mess with me, joe. any risk about saying that?