many as possible as somebody in the cable tv business. his tweets. he's under federal investigation. this doesn't seem -- i guess the only argument for rudy giuliani is 2020 is likely to be worse candidly given what's out there for him. but this year, it is radically changed how he -- no matter what happens, radically changed how he will be remembered historically. i think you see some of his friends now acknowledging that fact. he's in all sorts of trouble. whether it's lev parnas, igor fruman and the ukraine stuff. i think this year ends in huge uncertainty for rudy giuliani. his legacy has been tarnished. >> who's on naughty mt. rushmore with giuliani? >> let's g o to the next one. hawryl hillary clinton. people will say you always fixate on her. she was the party's nominee