than i do about the institutions themselves. >> look, jeffrey rosen and richard odonhue is the acting deputy attorney general, they held, right? but as another official described to us last week, that's the thinnest membrane of protection you can possibly have. that is all that was standing between them and these letters going out to states around the country. and you can only imagine what could have happened at that point. the insurrection was bad, bad enough. you can only imagine what would have happened if you had the justice department sending out these official comments that were clearly dishonest and lies. is it possible that you think crimes were committed? is that something that should be investigated here? >> you know, i don't know if crimes were committed here. quite frankly i think that obviously congress will look into that if they believe crimes were committed they'll make a referral to the department of justice, merrick garland's department of justice and they'll do -- if they believe that those suggestions or recommendations are credible,