>> it's so interesting to see the world move over the last 20 plus years on this to a different place. up until not too long ago, this was referred to as the monica lewinsky scandal. >> yes. >> which it's not. >> right, yes. and there has been such a reframing, an important reframing of what happened here. she was a victim in this story despite being an adult. it doesn't matter, she was a victim in this story. she was revictimized constantly by the clintons, by that administration, by democrats, by other feminists by people who tried to discredit her, by the media and i think he is so wonderfully emerged, rightfully, as a pillar of strength and decency and class and integrity and really important voice not just against sexual harassment but bullying and cyber bullying