fingers crossed, maybe it's starting to go down. hospitalization in many ways the most reliable way to track trends in terms of covid. do you think this will stick? what do you see here? >> we've been following this closely. looking at the growth, pace of growth and seeing if you're seeing contraction in the pace of growth. i think we are seeing that, especially in many of the states that had the straight-up exponential growth. you're starting to finally see some slowing of that. it's similar to what happened in other countries around the world where you had these significant sense of cases and hospitalizations and then they start to plateau for awhile. i think the question right now is how long will the plateau be. if you look in places like the uk, a short plateau and pretty rapid descent at that point. we're going to school this season. you add another variable into the mix here that might make it challenging. i showed you a graph from san diego county last week. let me show you a similar graph