reconciliation, where you only need 50 democrats in the senate, the only way you can pass anything right now, this isn't the way to do it. what do you say to that? >> i'm going to keep talking to him. but, you know, there are two secret weapons in the senate working him right now, senator patty murray and kirsten gill gillibrand. joe does respect his colleagues over there. legislation is the art of compromise. that compromise isn't a dirty word. you bring everybody to the table, you listen to the perspectives. you heard will rogers saying. it people with weak stomachs shouldn't walk sausage being made. we're not done. we don't know what's in it. we hear what the president says.