of there safely. we saw that all the way back to the raid that killed osama bin laden in 2011 in pakistan. these are the ways these missions are conducted. short, sharp, lethal, hot, get in, get out, and know for a fact your target is there. that's what they take to the president. the knowledge that they have, the intelligence they have, and they say to a -- any president, look, here's what we can do, here is what the risk may be, do u want to sign off on it. >> barbara, what is the current status of isis right now in terms of what they're doing and their capabilities and the significance, perhaps, of the death of their leader? >> well, i think that is something the intelligence community will assess now. the impact of the specifically of the killing of this man. and who may be next in line. we saw that for years with al