president called minor incursions, right, that putin is testing the system, just as the president told us at that press conference in january he would. and they are beginning to roll out sanctions. but they don't want to do all of them for obvious reasons, because they wanted to deter putin if they can from moving in on the whole country. >> and do you think that will work, the staggering of sanctions? >> it is a great question, brianna. it is a real roll of the dice. this is the really hard question that biden and his advisers are going to have to go consider and they have been considering overnight. and they had mapped this possibility out before. here's the problem. if you did everything now, and then vladimir putin may conclude i'm paying a price for taking the whole country, even though i've only taken donbas, so i might as well keep going and do