having some success, these moments, how much does that help as you move possibly towards the resistance phase for ukraine? >> i think vignettes like that give the ukrainian military, but equally important the ukrainian citizenry hope. and they demonstrate the russian military is not ten feet tall. and that they live, breathe and die just like other human beings. and i think that's very important in these early days. because ukrainian people are suffering from a -- the shock of the invasion. but it is that shock, as it wears off there is realism they could actually fight back. >> lieutenant general lute, appreciate you being with us. thank you so much. all right, want to go back to kyiv right now, terrell jermaine starr, senior reporter at the root. we're going to you, we see you're in a car right now driving about the city there, in