>> but gun control advocates would dispute that. why shouldn't there be gun control for everyone. stop one mentally ill person from getting a gun? >> that's the reason. the truth of the matter is, it will pick up a couple of really extraordinarily stupid criminals, you know, it's going to catch a few of those, you're right. but what it really will do is create that -- that registry, that registry of gun owners and historically that does lead to confiscation and i have to tell you, governments have been responsible forfar more murders than the average creep on the street. >> wow. i think some people would dispute that. many police officers -- >> there's nothing to dispute. that's statistical, historical evidence. >> many police officers want background checks, they say it's necessary to do their job.