saying it, they can say it. if not, you can say as the promo says that has been running on cnn and right here that you see -- the "n" word and many people say if you say the "n" word you should take ownership of saying the "n" word because you're putting the ownership on me. i think about the word in my head. there is a funny sketch about that. you should say the word instead of saying the "n" word. >> a lot of this discussion is about people feeling comfortable with it or people having a better understanding of it and the context in which it should or is or can be used? >> if it can be used or should be used. i have to be honest with you. just before i came in today, i was on the phone with the producer for "the n word" and talking about the rundown and the guest and the person sitting next to me in the barber chair said, you know, those "n" words