>> somebody knows. >> several people know, i'm sure. but on the issue of guns, ms. robinson, there is -- it's a perspective from a colleague of mine. he's don lemon, so he was on this radio show and wondering out loud, basically, if lawmakers aren't enacting tougher laws, which i know you and folks with the newtown families were calling for, you know, that might mean, and i'm quoting don, that by some of us not owning a gun or at least embracing the idea of one, are we setting ourselves up to be victims in a movie theater, in a school, a public building? most of all in our streets, in our own neighborhoods and in our own homes, and armed with just our cell phones, our fists, and our wits, are we setting ourselves up to be sitting ducks? does he have a point at all? are we defenseless? >> yes, we are setting ourselves up. and i believe that's what has to happen. it has to hit some of their homes. for them to realize that it's