those bruising debt ceiling negotiations, we saw a lot of meetings where congressional leaders were summons to the white house and it felt like there's another one of those meetings. i guess there's all together in a room and nothing is accomplished. that's not the case today. those are the indications we're getting from white house officials we're talking to. we're told during the meeting we should expect the parties there will be discussing what is going on in the senate negotiations in detail. they will be looking for some sort of convergence to get everyone on the same page. of course, a lot of this, brooke, as well is about ratcheting up the pressure on house republicans. you heard dana talk about that. that is no doubt the case. we saw president obama really doing that in the comments that he made there at martha's table at the food pantry he went to just a short time ago. really trying to stress that if there isn't a compromise, there could be a default. really putting the ramifications of a possible default out there as well. and i will say, brooke, it's not necessarily an indication that