from one of those submarines in vancouver. specifically martin is 50 feet down, martin? >> good morning, carol. you and i have had conversations from many different parts of the world. i've got to say this one takes the cake. sitting right now at the bottom of horseshoe bay in british columbia inside the aquarius. let me reverse the view here. there are exactly four of us, phil nuytten, the under water excavation expert, the man who knows everything about going deep and retrieving. and then actually in the back i've got to give at least a shout-out to jeff heaton, the man piloting this vessel. this is the cramped conditions under which we're working and tube would be very much like the conditions if we sent down a submersible with people on