poland and estonia. nato allies, of course, bordering ukraine, they're relatively small in nature, about a company each, 150 each, but i'm told by this western official they're meant to be rotational, in other words, they won't be a one-off. how significant a show of support for nato allies in the region do you think this is? >> i think this is very important. it's not so much important for deterring the russians. i don't think the russians are going to attack poland again, but i think it's very important for the polish people to know that membership in nato really means an attack on them, it's an attack on all, and that they can count on our support. and, you know, this goes back 75 years in september when britain and france had an agreement with the poles and when the germans attacked them, they dutifully declared war on germany, but nothing happened. so, i think it's very important as reassurance to these members of nato on the eastern -- eastern flank. >> now, looking at this deal