get it. direct that anger at the policy, at the people who kept us there in that war, who five years later those guys died and the civil war there, that war is still going on and we're leaving. it's appropriate to be angry. appropriate to be frustrated. appropriate to be upset. i would urge you to look at the policy makers and generals and politicians who kept this war going. >> josh, what do you say to that? >> i really appreciate you and what you're saying. i understand where you're coming from. >> well, the biggest thing i have to say to that is basically the same thing i've been saying all along. there's a bond of brotherhood over there like what he's saying. the thing is that bowe betrayed that bond. he left us. he voluntarily walked away. all of the evidence points to the fact that he just took off his gear in the middle of a guard shift and walked away leaving all of my friends