interaction with trump at all because he doesn't want to be in trump's cross hairs. that's why he resorts to things like using machine guns to cook bacon. >> does it work against them they have to shut up and listen and they may not get the last word in. that doesn't seem to be very advantageous to trump. >> reporter: . >> the rules go out the window. it's going to be upon the moderators to try to wrangle these ten different personalities into their boxes, but no one really expects that's going to happen. so what we're going to see is over the course of the two hours, people challenge the rules. people challenge the challenges to the rules, and ultimately it's going to result in what's going to be tv mayhem. >> you talk about this strategy that some will engage in try to look president a don't engage with donald trump. the old saying if you ignore a bully, they'll leave you alone. that doesn't apply to donald