place in pensacola and i think they're going to help out the families very greatly. but right now they send their condolences and as you know, i've sent my condolences. it is a very shocking thing. and we'll find out -- we'll get to the bottom of it very quickly. >> i want to bring in our law enforcement analyst and former fbi supervisory special agent james galliano. also with us, our national security reporter. we just heard from the defense secretary as well. what did he say? >> he is really just talking about the nature of this investigation, really, the big question here is motive. and there is no answer as to what was the motivation behind this gunman on friday morning here at the naval base in pensacola. let's listen to some sound and i'll give you more context after we hear from defense secretary esper. >> i can't say it's terrorism at this time. i think we need to let the investigators, the fbi do its