that as a looming deadline. how do they feel about that? >> yeah, they try in these kinds of instants to be impervious to it. there's no way to really do it. but we've got enough -- the actual guidelines try to -- i don't think it'll keep the southern district from new york going after him aggressively. they already have his two sort of henchmen cooperating. so i think for now, it doesn't change things. if they actually indict him and there's a dynamic between the trump charges and giuliani charges since trump is trying to throw him under the train. that, then, could a effect things on both sides of the capitol. >> was it rudy giuliani doing allegedly exactly what he is accusing joe biden of doing? pressuring foreigners for person gable -- gain?