conversation with an individual named problem blair. and mr. blair provided insight into the reason for the pause? >> sandy was one of the few witnesses that we had that was able to give us a firsthand account inside of omb, the reason for the pause related to the president's concern about european burden sharing. >> right. >> in the region. >> and he -- and in fact in his conversations, the president's conversations with senator johnson, he mentions his concern about burden sharing. and i believe he referenced a conversation that he had with the chance lower of germany, and in fact the whole first part of the july 24th transcript he's talking about burden sharing and