once been a democrat when he was challenging gerald ford. he was extremely liberal in the day. so, you know, the question is where are these people now. winston churchhill, not only as they said in the trade, ratted. he reratted. he left the conservative party in britain and came back. i don't question that donald trump is a conservative. he is where he is. he says what he says. and he'll be on that stage ready to go. >> i guess there's no such thing as a rino anymore? a republican in name only? >> that definition has been scrambled, mainly by donald trump. hypocrisy is the life blood of politics. politicians turn on a dime. we all know that. i can't think of a politician who hasn't flip-flopped on at