because that is the bottom line issue, isn't it? >> the bottom line issue is also what was his motive? what was he looking for? what is the president looking for? he clearly wanted an investigation. the fact is there was plenty of stuff that's in the record that so far hasn't been brought forward in these hearings because i think the republicans are going to be denied to bring all of their witnesses about the issue of paul manafort, with the efforts of the democrat operatives back in the 2016 elections to go through ukraine and get dirt on the president and on manafort. and there is also evidence apparently from rudy giuliani's op-ed piece in "the wall street journal" this week there's a ukrainian parliament member who has said in public that he saw where $900,000 was transferred from burisma to a lobby group that was owned on run by hunter biden. >> we don't have any confirmation of that. >> those would be reasons for the president to ask for an investigation, perfectly