software, or, you know, software being used to redistrict spam or phishing emails. however, we know that ransomware gangs are starting to exploit this vulnerability. both iran and china have started looking for vulnerable systems to exploit. it's being exploited, but the big dogs, the ones that -- the cybercriminals and nation state actors we worry about, we know they're scanning. we don't know if they have successful exploited yet. what deterrents need to be put in place to prevent these kinds of situations now and in the future? >> right. so the big thing right now is organizations around the world are patching. the patching -- the foundation that maintains the software released the patch early on. they released a second patch and i know a lot of organizations, like ours, directly have not had any sleep over the last four