responsibility we have to end the fossil fuel era and therefore reduce the risks of these super dangerous storms and events. >> it's back to your first point. the long view. it was a couple of decades ago where the warning signs were there and here we are now in that space. who knows what's around the corner, but it doesn't sound good unless there's some real qualified change. so you have traveled all around the country studying the climate crisis. you've seen the fires, you've seen the droughts, you've seen the storms. what is your message to those who, even today, even despite all of these images, still don't want to acknowledge that there's a problem? >> i mean, i think this is incredibly difficult and in the aftermath of a disaster like this and a hurricane like this, i think it's important to just sort of be there for each other, know that we're not alone, that people are all hopefully coming together facing the immediate sort of safety risks of a crisis