sociological phenomenon that we all have to grapple with that has been a factor in this case. we know on tiktok videos and posts about gabby have been seen hundreds of millions of times. whether that's mostly positive or whether that's a negative i think remains to be seen. but i think all of that social media did put more pressure on investigators in this case. >> and joey jackson is still with us. joey, up until this point, laundrie has not cooperated with police. he's now been missing since tuesday. this is very puzzling. i hate to think the worst in all of this, but we saw that video of the couple with the moab police department. it doesn't look like things are going well there. and you contrast that with all of these other social media posts, something doesn't add up here. >> yeah, it really doesn't. so a couple of things. the distinction between direct and circumstantial evidence.