haley org governor desantis, if you lose in iowa or lose in new hampshire, i wouldn't drop out of that race any time soon because there's bombs about to go off in the trump campaign related to the legal proceedings. >> you think some of these campaigns may need to have some sort of, you know, go bag, i suppose, so to speak. they need to have a campaign in waiting. is that what you're thinking? >> i think so. i think so. you've got to have the apparatus in place if he goes down. listen, i have said to people, i think he's the al capone of american politics or the teflon don. both of these people were in the bull's eye of the american justice system. everybody said they were untouchable. they turned out not to be untouchable. the president's campaign and some of his supporters believe that he's not going to be touched. that's possible. but it may not be because the evidence is overwhelming.